sime66
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Post by sime66 on Jan 30, 2012 15:25:42 GMT
I’ve done my CBT, which was pretty straight forward as you’d said. I’ve been out for a spin round Launceston this morning, which was OK despite poor riding conditions.
· I was having a bit of trouble firing up in the cold and wet yesterday during the CBT. I’m using NGK B6HS, and the guy who took my CBT said to use iridium plugs instead; does anyone have an opinion on that? I think it’s a bit simpler than that; I put a new B6HS in this morning, and the one I removed was a bit oily, and also the exhaust looked a bit oily blowing on the wet ground. I think I just need to get used to the choke, throttle, fuel/oil mix before I blame the scooter. When it’s running, it feels and sounds very smooth up and down through all the gears, and idling.
· With the scooter I inherited a nearly-empty bottle of Fuchs Silkolene Scoot2 synthetic oil, which I’ve just finished (mixing at 2%). I need to get another bottle; is this the best thing to get? If anyone reading hasn’t read my previous posts, I’ve just bought a 1984 PX125E.
As far as meeting up with Joe, shaun etc goes, or getting to Bodmin or further a field; I’m well up for it, but it is forecast to be very cold and wet for a week or so, which will limit my chance to get out for gentle spins to familiarise myself with my scooter, and to trust it to get me home again. I bet a good run will do it good though.
Anyway, it’s only January, I’ve got the scooter, and done the CBT; so all is going to plan for a good year!
Cheers all, Simon
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Post by pjw on Jan 30, 2012 18:54:55 GMT
Hi Simon. Glad your CBT went OK and you are on the road. Plug sounds about right to me. The iridium plugs are expensive but don't get so oiled up. The one you are using should be fine but you may have to adjust the air fuel mix to get it burning the right colour (the plug should be a coffee colour if it is set up right). If your's is oiled up it could be running a bit rich. 2 Stroke oil advice differs depending on who you talk to. I use ROCK oil fully synthetic in both my scooters. Some go for semi synthetic and a few are still on any old mineral stuff. I was always told go for the best you can afford and what makes your scooter run best. Rock Oil does it for me but if I can't get hold of it I use Castrol power 1 TTS 2T fully synthetic which is available at Halfords. ;D Ride safe Phil
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Post by grayspeed on Jan 30, 2012 19:55:48 GMT
I use Rock oil semi synthetic in mine, reckon if it's good enough for strimmers at 17,000 rpm then it'll be fine in a vespa.
I will be stocking Rock oil products shortly.
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Post by sime66 on Jan 31, 2012 6:42:36 GMT
Thanks for the replies – all very useful info.
I’m gonna stick with my B6HS unless I get into trouble, and I’ll get some Rock Oil – probably best not to change from synthetic if that’s what’s been used up to now. Got to get the best I can find around here this time, so I can refuel.
If I get any agro once I’m sure I’m used to the scooter, I can play with iridium plugs and oil. In both cases I do not mind spending a bit to get it running as best I can, so that I can trust it; with my very limited knowledge, reliability is the key at present. Not confident about playing with the carb. myself if I am running a bit rich; I’ve had a read-up about adjusting it, but I’m sure I’d do more harm than good at present. I’ll see how it goes, but I reckon it’ll be OK when I’m used to it. I reckon it’s better to ask a dumb question than to stay dumb, or do something dumb, so does running rich mean that I’m adding too much oil to my fuel, or does it mean that I’m getting too little air in at the carb? I think, Phil, you’re suggesting I may need more air?
I Should get to meet up with you soon, if not before there must be a club meet in a few weeks I expect. Would like to meet the other new/local guys too, and would like to get to Bodmin to sort out a rack and some bits, but Graeme, if I keep adding to my shopping list when I come to see you, I’ll need to tow a shopping trolley! I saw reference to your scooter requisite emporium earlier in the forum, but I’ve lost track of it now; did you decide on a name? Is there a website, or is it all word of mouth/forum business?
Simon
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Post by grayspeed on Jan 31, 2012 9:18:36 GMT
Word of mouth at the mo, website hopefully working this week, look out for an announcement...
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Post by pjw on Jan 31, 2012 19:29:39 GMT
You are right - rich means too much fuel not enough air.
To adjust it is simple. There is a screw at the rear of the carb box usually with an 8mm hex top I think or some have a rubber grommet and a flat head screw. From memory it is clockwise to reduce the air and anti clockwise to increase. Try closing it fully and then open it one and a half turns. Run it round the block to get it warm then have a look at your plug colour.
A lot of it is trial and error for me as I am not much of a mechanic. I have been known to get it completely wrong and call on the experts to bail me out so there may be other contrary advice coming on here!!!
Grayspeed is the local expert on Vespas.
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Post by sime66 on Feb 1, 2012 10:44:52 GMT
Thanks, Phil. I had a good run with a new plug yesterday after a quick tweak. It was Icy this morning, but I took a look before kicking over and the plug was white with the slightest hint of orange – looked good to me. She fired up second kick and didn’t miss a beat. I don’t know if this is funny, sad, embarrassing, par for the course or what, but I had my first experience of sliding down a muddy lane on my back, and going back to pick the scooter up off the road yesterday. No harm done, felt foolish more than bruised. I shall show muddy, windy lanes a little more respect now though. Less than 48 hours from CBT to gutter! The Grayspeed shopping list is growing – got any filler in stock G? Actually it's only a scratch, and that's why I didn't want to start off with a nice shiny one anyway.
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